Welcome to "The Conversation"

Greetings,

If this is your first time coming onto this blog, in the precious and beautiful name of Jesus (Yeshua), welcome.

I’ll begin by saying I’m a firm believer [in] Messiah Yeshua. Being [“in”] Messiah Yeshua can only take place when a person chooses to accept Yeshua as Lord, and Savior (that according to the Scriptures); to be born again (John 3: 3, NKJV).

• I, having once believed in man’s attempt to create a new system of belief saying you’d first have to believe Yeshua is God in order to be “born again,” saved (that according to the Anthanasian Creed, 325-AD), have done just that, accepted Yeshua as my Lord, and Savior, according to the [Scriptures]. “Praise God!”

You’re about to enter into a conversation (comments left by “John” and what God has placed in my care) concerning the falsehood saying Yeshua is God. Let me make this clear, I’m not against “John,” the words he left for all to read is what I’m against. He’s certainly not the origin of making Yeshua God.

• You’ll be reading over and over again (coming from me) “as given to me by the Spirit of God; which will be in agreement with everything Yeshua said, and did” within the conversation.

What that means, and this is according to the simplicity of Yeshua’s gospel as given to me by the Spirit of God which, will be in agreement with everything Yeshua said, and did, is that everything said, written, or painted (pictures/art work) concerning the salvation of a person’s soul will be taken back to Yeshua’s words (as given to Him by God) and be “checked out,” accepted or rejected as it being a Biblical truth, or not, by them.

In the 4^th century, unlike today, the common person didn't have a Bible to read/study, or even follow along with those as they read/interpreted [theirs] to them. The authorities that be (the church) had full control of it, the Bible; unlike today where the common person can choose to accept/reject what they’re hearing/reading concerning it, the Bible. The bottom line is not what a person is reading “words,” or even how the Bible has been passed on/down through time (by the mouth/hands of “man”) to us today (God’s in control). It’s who’s going to be the source of a person’s understanding of it, the Bible, now that you/we have it in our own hands, today.

• As you continue on (if you should choose to do so), keep that in mind. [THE] bottom line [is], you’re responsible for the care of [your] salvation.

• I’m not interested in taking you from (if that’s the case) the “earthly institution,” church you’re attending. [The] Body (those found to be [in] Messiah) of Messiah, is, the Church. I’m certainly not interested in starting one of them (an earthly institution) either. Nor am I interested in having a group of people [follow] me into some hidden secluded place out in the country side trying to convince them the world is flat; to eventually end up on the 11 o’clock news.

I’m not responsible for the choice(s) people make concerning a [Biblical] truth God has placed in my care; that responsibility lies on those hearing/reading, them. If I should lie to you…not good!

God bless!

In His Care…Jim

P.S.
I don't know why John chose to place a comment (March 9, 2014 at 10: 05 AM) 

on this posting concerning the conversation taking place on a different one, "Answer to 

John's comment from the previous post"? Since he also left (March 9, 2014 at 

10:03 AM) a similar comment where it rightfully belongs, "Answer to John's comment 

from the previous post," I've decided to leave them as is and place the exact same 

response to them on both postings.

Knowing that God is not the author of confusion (intentionally left blank). Mercy 

triumphs over judgment. Praise God!

In His Tender Loving Care...Jim

Answer to John's comment from the previous post.

This posting is the direct result of John’s comment found attached to the previous post Titled: Messiah Yeshua’s God is “His God” God. You’ll find it, John’s comment, with the date and time: March 7, 2014 at 8PM attached to it.

I’m going to begin by commenting on his last paragraph. John, you of all people wrote: “No knowledge of Hebrew or Greek is necessary to answer these questions because the NKJV English version presents the text in the language we both understand.”

John, you’re not far from the kingdom my friend. You have repeatedly rebuked everything I’ve given you (as given to me by the Spirit of God) using the same formula. The [many] comments you’ve left on this blog will certainly establish that as being a truth. How is it that this (you’re understanding) is acceptable “in English” for these particular verses (Rev 2: 8 and Isaiah 44: 6) and not for the rest of the “NKJV” New King James Version of the Bible?

• Do you, John, have the entire “NKJV” Bible broken down to where you can set aside “separate” the “English,” Hebrew,” and “Greek” understanding (according to you of course) of each word “verse,” to the point where the Spirit of God is not necessary in your “teaching” understanding of them; being Biblically correct in all your ways?

• Don’t worry everyone out there, whatever language your version of the Bible is written in, the Spirit of God is able to give you the understanding of Yeshua’s teachings found within it; let alone Genesis to Revelation (that according to the Scriptures).

John, how about using the same formula (especially the “no Greek” side of it) in your reading of my answers to your questions; they will be coming from an English “NKJV,” Bible; as given to me by the Spirit of God; which will be in agreement with everything Yeshua (as given to Him by God) said, and did.

John, the answer to your first Question:

“Revelation 2: 8” is Messiah Yeshua

Your second question:

“Isaiah 44: 6” is Messiah Yeshua’s God, and Father (that according to the Scriptures), who just so happened to choose Messiah as the means of accomplishing His plan of redemption for His chosen People (Israel) and salvation for the world (Gentiles included). As a matter of fact He, God, He called it “It is too small a thing” an easy thing for Him to do: Indeed He (God) says, ‘It is too small a thing that You (Messiah) should be My (God) Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob (Israel), And to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I (God) will also give You (Messiah) as a light to the Gentiles, that You (Messiah) should be My (God) salvation to the ends of the earth.’ ” God, Isaiah 49: 6, NKJV

Yeshua, and in His own words, is “the beginning of the creation of God” (Revelation 3: 14, NKJV), and everything He had was “I (God) will also give You (Messiah)” given to Him by God; which clearly establishes He did not have it to [begin] with. I repeat, “Which clearly establishes He did not have it to [begin] with;” key word being “begin”.

“Besides Me there is no God” would certainly be in agreement with everything Yeshua (as given to Him by God) said, and did. Yeshua certainly established God as being not only His God in the Scriptures, He, and this is as Yeshua spoke directly to God (John 17: 3, NKJV), called “You,” God  “You, the only true God” the only true God.

God is! Messiah is the beginning (first) and the end (last) of God’s plan of redemption for His chosen People (Israel), and salvation for the world (Gentiles included); as given to me by the Spirit of God; which will be in agreement with everything Yeshua (as given to Him by God) said, and did.

1 Corinthians 15: 28 (NKJV) gives us: “Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.” I can safely say “all in all” includes not only God’s chosen People, but Gentiles and Messiah Yeshua Himself.

John, would you (for the sake of the viewing audience) please bring clarity as to how your [explanation/interpretation] of Revelation 2: 8 (NKJV) and Isaiah 44: 6 (NKJV) would differ from Micah’s, Saul’s (called Paul), Peter’s, John’s, and Yeshua’s words calling God “My God, His God, the God and Father of” Yeshua’s God and Father (found in the post you have chosen to attach your comment to) while at the same time declaring it/them, your “answer,” to be Biblically, correct.

God bless!

In His Loving Care…Jim

Messiah Yeshua's God is "His God" God

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”  Apostles Saul (who is also called Paul), 2 Corinthians 1:3, Ephesians 1:3, and Peter, 1 Peter 1:3 (NKJV)

• Blessed be the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Israel). He is the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ (Messiah Yeshua).

In the precious and beautiful name of Messiah Yeshua, greetings,

Greetings Friends,

 If a person is using the [Bible] and their own personal study material in their search of the [Biblical] evidence of Yeshua being “the Son is God,” God, they’d find the [Scriptures] as being the ones exposing it as being a falsehood.  That “study material,” which was written after the fact, and this 100% of the time, must be subject to [Scripture].

Example:

Micah:

• “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting.” Therefore He shall give them up, Until the time that she who is in labor has given birth; Then the remnant of His brethren Shall return to the children of Israel.  And He shall stand and feed His flock In the strength of the Lord, In the majesty of the name of the Lord His God; And they shall abide, For now He shall be great To the ends of the earth; Micah 5: 2-4 (NKJV)

“The one to be Ruler in Israel” [is] Messiah Yeshua.

Messiah Yeshua [is] going to feed His flock in the strength of, in the majesty of...“His God”.  If the material being used agrees with “the Son is God,” it’ll have to supply the [Biblical] evidence supporting it.  Better yet, it’ll have to change, delete all together, or replace Micah’s prophecy concerning the one that is to be born in Bethlehem.  “His God” is crystal clear.

Saul:

• “That you may with one mind and with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.” Romans 15:6

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,” 2 Corinthians 1:3

“The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.” 2 Corinthians 11:31

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ.” Ephesians 1:3

“That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him,” Ephesians 1:17

“We give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,” Colossians 1:3 (NKJV)

The same can be said for Saul.

PETER:

• “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” 1 Peter 1:3 (NKJV)

Peter as well.

JOHN:

• (Speaking of Yeshua)”and has made us kings and priest to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.” Revelation 1:6 (NKJV)

 Last but not least John.  “His God,” in Micah 5:4 and Revelation 1:6, looks the same to me.

YESHUA:

• “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” 

Jesus said to her (Mary Magdalene), “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.” John 20:17

“Then Jesus said to them, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things.” Messiah Yeshua, John 8: 28 (NKJV)

“The only true God” [is] “You” God; and that’s coming from the mouth of the one to be Ruler in Israel, Messiah Yeshua, who just so happens to be not only born [in] Bethlehem (that according to the Scriptures), He has been taught by His Father to speak those things He said (that according to the Scriptures), too.

My friends, I can tell you the simplicity of Yeshua’s doctrine will not, [cannot], be found in man’s interpretations of it. One of the common phrases you’ll hear coming from those believing Yeshua is God, “How can so many [Christians] be wrong?” is the evidence of believing in something that [is], wrong. Within this blog (in a recent comment from John) a number was attached to that phrase. I’m not going to look up the exact number he used (representing the “Christian” population of the world today believing Yeshua is God), but it was huge. Have we, they, forgotten Yeshua’s teaching concerning that matter?

• “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” Messiah Yeshua, Matthew 7: 13-14 (NKJV)

It’s not about numbers my friends, its Yeshua. With man leaning on their own understanding, and believing they’re the measure of all things while doing so, they’ll continue to ignore Yeshua’s teachings; as given by the Spirit of God.

Man, in his or her attempt to justify a falsehood, will only expose it for what it is. [Pride], and “pride” alone will continue to be the driving force behind them doing so; which means they’ll be plenty of opportunities (for those [in] Messiah) to place their findings next to the [simplicity] of Yeshua’s doctrine.

• There is [zero] no chance of their interpretations of the Scriptures, those that are [making] forcing Yeshua to be “the Son is God,” God, of ever being [Biblically] correct. I’ll say it again, “zero!”

Those continuing to believe “the Son is God” will read this post a million times, with the many verses of Scripture within it, (and I say this in love) and never see the [simplicity] of Micah, Saul, Peter and John’s writings establishing God as being not only the only true God, their God, He’s Yeshua’s God, and Father, too.

God bless.

In His Loving Care…Jim